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They already are.

I still dont get your point, its designed for the security audience and it has a very good reputation there. Its not aimed at normal people, by your own admission they wont even understand what it does and why they would want it. So why are you talking it down for not reaching more normal people?

This was literally a comment:

>GrapheneOS is not made for nerds, it is made for normal people.


> An OS made for nerds and by nerds will never reach mainstream

By your own definition, is it meant to make the mainstream?


GrapheneOS is not made for nerds, it is made for normal people.

You don’t know any normal people, do you?

Thats their issue that they want to pay several staff half an hours wage for cashing a cheque. I would have been enjoying every second of the farce.

Your time must not be valuable to you, which is a very limited perspective.

You don't understand. They will make you pay for it by charging a handling fee. How about $10 flat per transaction?

I didnt understand that because the parent comment made no mention of that, only the time the bank took. So I would argue you dont understand, as maybe some banks do charge for the privilege, but that is not the point that was made and I was replying to.

> cause they don't want to migrate off existing mainframes

Dont confuse intent with laziness, running on cobol genuinely gives them many advantages.


This.

Knowing your limitations of building, but being good at designing and watching somebody/something else realise your vision is incredibly satisfying.

I see it like 3D printing. Nobody can extrude molten plastic out of their bodies to make things, but the skill of designing the construction well and then watch the machine execute it is certainly a good feeling. I dont really see how this is different to designing some software verbally and prompting an ai to build it for you.


If you don't know how the artefact you ordered works you haven't built it in any meaningful sense of the word.

I have coded big projects manually for a long time. Being able to get ai to do it, then step back and marvel at knowing how much work that would have taken manually is very satisfying.

Thats your life and your opinion which you are fully entitled to, but dont make the mistake of thinking your life and opinion is better than anyone elses. It suits you, thats whats important.

"A bit of prompting" is subjective, and can indeed take a lot of work to craft accurate prompts which produce genuinely useful output.

> The default state is that things don't get done unless we have a reason.

What about art? People make art and inventions just for the hell of it and to satisfy come itch. Whether or not other people then like it or find it useful is subjective and up to the individual. IMO taking away peoples right to make stuff for no reason and enjoy doing it is to take away our humanity.

I upvoted the article because it brought me some nostalgia and entertained me for a bit while I played with it and knowing how to code a spectrum myself, marvelled at the complexity of the code and the project itself. Maybe people have more reasons to enjoy things than your narrow viewpoint allows for?


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