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> "When policy is politically polarized, you need more facts," he said.

Mmmm... It seems in the world of politics, esp. populist politics, more facts don't bring better policies. They are simply ignored, or accused of being lies pushed by the ennemies.

> "We have all the facts on this we need. We don't need any more facts. In the land of truth, my friend, the man with one fact is the king."

-- Linton Barwick, In The Loop (2009)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdoN1LWGgfQ


My friend was saying that we just need to show people the facts to change their minds. I showed him a pile of scientific studies indicating that it doesn't work. His response was "I still think it'll work"!

Hillarious, to be honest. It still leaves me wondering... what _does_ work?

Finally a The Thick of It reference in HN.

An AUS Utopia reference would probably be more fitting though.


> 158 Canadian soldiers died defending the United States at the US's request after 9/11. Canadian fighter jets helped to patrol the skies in the US at the US's request after 9/11.

Bad idea. Canada (as well as all other nations) should let the US fight and lose its wars by itself.


This was under Jean Chrétien who recently gave a speech: https://www.cpac.ca/headline-politics/episode/jean-chretien-...

He supported US in Afghanistan, but refused to support war in Iraq since he didn't consider there to be sufficient evidence of WMD


And countries.

Very informative article, but I'd say all of this is in favor of OpenRouter, not against it. It gives you full flexibility, not just of models, but of providers. That's the offer!

As long as you are constantly diligent in staying on top of what each provider is doing that may impact you.

It reads to me an argument for self hosting, maybe a less capable model to deal with smaller compute resources, but when starting to use that model and inference software to build a benchmark you can easily rerun when you change things to observe the impact of the change.

Maybe that’s a similar level of diligence but they feel different to me.


Like everyone, it seems, in this thread, I have not one big box of cables but several. But my classification system is mostly around age: old USB cables (mini, micro) vs recent USB cables (USB C), old screen cables (VGA) vs recent ones (HDMI), etc.

This doesn't work for everything: audio cables do not evolve much, nor do remote cables for DSLRs; but in general it's reasonably effective.


As a musician with a modular synth, I have three boxes, two just for audio.

Somehow, after decades of careful curation, the cable I need is always missing!


I have a separate box for MIDI cables of varying lengths.

Not everybody listens to music all of the time. I almost never listen to music. I watch few movies and mostly, I rewatch old ones that I like. Paying that amount of money for any subscription to a content faucet (while Youtube is still free, if you absolutely must watch video) sounds crazy to me.

> Install ESP32 Bit Pirate firmware on supported ESP32-S3 boards

Ok but is there a list of supported boards? Couldn't find it.

Edit: I couldn't find the list on the site, but it's on Github.


All the big AI labs were built on stealing IP; who is surprised that's still how they operate? And who believes, or has ever believed, their promises that your data is private and not logged, etc.?

The big AI labs are not trying to advance humanity, they are in this for the money, and as most (all?) private companies they don't care about ethics at all.

That doesn't mean they can't be useful, or that their products are trash, etc. It just means that they shouldn't ever be trusted. Buyer beware.


They have throughout this period of AI products shown to reproduce works that they were trained on. They are getting sued all over the place for the theft of content right now and it seems courts and governments want to wave copyright protection (and ignore criminal acts because the "ai did it") to see where this leads.

Its why I stopped writing open source software, my code was stolen and put behind a paywall and the license under which it was published has not been adhered to. Doing work in the public domain at all now is just stupid, these companies are allowed to steal it and call it their own.


Yes open source code was the first - it’s what has got Anthropic and OAI its revenues from selling outputs associated with producing code.

It's hilarious how people think they care about their reputation, and wouldn't circumvent ZDR policies. Like bro, they literally covertly hired Apple employees and had them steal IP and equipment form Apple. They aren't scared of Apple lawyers, so they definitely aren't scared of yours.

AI is America's last chance to salvage its empire. Nothing will be allowed to impede it.

But I don't see how. AI is going to be a commodity in short order and best case the US will be a temporary leader in the supply of tokens. Meanwhile AI is going to destroy much of the Service and Software industry that make up most of the US economy. And the US is betting every last cent to bring about this future. It does make sense for Trump since this might be a sugar high that lasts till the end of his term.

In USA there is surprisingly little state involvement in the whole llm mania. Who needs the state with 800 lbs gorillas like Google, Amazon, Nvidia, etc

In China, it is the principal obsession of the entire communist party which eg funds the whole infrastructure without a single NIMBY peep.

The strange emphasis in China on humanoid robotic constructions is due to the CCP realization that with the cataclysmic fertility collapse they will increasingly have no one to rule.


what the point and usefulness of the comments above? we shouldn't be surprised? is normal to steal? hiring apple employees?

can you realize what this means?

focus on this part:

"If his account is correct, this is not a minor dispute over attribution. It would mean that unpublished human work was absorbed into a model and then presented to the world as a breakthrough by the model itself"

don't threat this as a minor dispute!

also why not nitter link? not even in comments?

https://nitter.xitter.cc/ValerioCapraro/status/2097791836269...


> we shouldn't be surprised? is normal to steal?

Two different things. It's not normal to steal, but we shouldn't be surprised thieves steal. It's what they do.


Don’t they openly state that their product may cause IP issues but that is fine because they will take care of your legal problems caused by their product?

In the end, it’s not them stealing, it’s the AI doing stealing. What kind of moral compass are we talking about?


Also how quickly the discourse forgets, literally that was a month ago.

Yeah but that will not prevent the stealing, it will only make the fight easier afterwards.

It is indeed an interesting and original idea, but one can think about at least three objections not directly raised in the post:

1- The machine could decide to kill itself early, rendering it useless; this is indeed alluded to in the post -- the task should be "marginally easier than dying", but how is this margin managed? Won't the machine come up with ways to make dying easier?

2- We know LLMs lie and cheat, but are they gullible? If we "promise" to end their suffering at the end of a task, will they believe us? Or will they make sure we keep our word by taking us with them?

3- And finally, and more importantly: some pilots crash planes full of people just to commit suicide (Germanwings Flight 9525). Destroying the universe is a sure way of dying yourself. So it seems giving the machine a death wish isn't intrinsically safe and could come with serious consequences.


Further to 1, most tasks are much harder than dying and are not actually completed by modern LLMs. It is a case of underspecification.

"Who is the fastest person in the UK?" is underspecified. We would typically answer and accept a cursory search of records, but it is possible to see the question as an instruction to measure which would justify conquering the country.


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