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Proof that vibe coded or not, people pay someone else mostly for liability.


I think thats more for being able to have the status page not tied to your own infrastructure.

It’s super easy to just run a totally disconnected synthetic check.

If you host it yourself, an outage on your side might end up taking it offline too.

And uniformity.

Cars are an amazing way to shift liability around. Try to start your own rail line, good luck. Have 10,000 drivers with 10,000 accidents? no problem.

I am uneasy about databases being used in general how they are today. Nobody writes SQL to read and write records directly. it's all pumped through business logic. Then you write a stored procedure to update x-on-y and the business logic breaks, in a scenario that is impossible for the business logic to produce.

additionally the logic is very far away from the data in many cases, obfuscated through layers of data modelling.

If there was a way to bring these closer, that would be nice.



> It runs on the real thing, not just an emulator.

Wow!!!!


Can one have a "modern" OS that is a UNIX clone?

> very quickly, going to need extra care.

they don't "need" extra care, and at 100 years old, should be pretty content with concepts of dying without intervention.

What is with the obsession in the world today about those on deaths door taking precedent over those who live today?


Wtf is going on with the discourse here lately? Are you advocating for effective "euthanasia" by neglect?

I'm advocating for "at 100 years old you're going to die pretty soon regardless of medical spending, and as a centarian, you should be prepared for this. no vanity or medical procedure will be cost effective and the world does not need more supercentarians, and japan does not need more old people. simple as.

I disagree with downvoting the parent; I did not interpret their post as advocating neglect or euthanasia or anything else of a nasty kind.

There is a point to be made that fewer and fewer people are ready to die - eventually.

However, it arguably is the natural course of things, and the only thing more certain than taxes. I'm not saying this because I cannot imagine a world in which death was switched off. Instead, I would argue that it is also a GOOD thing that death exists, as it makes one's lifetime more precious knowing your days are counted (it's also good not to know how many of them you have left). There is space made for new generations, and their different (hopefully eventually better) ideas.


Seems like you're thinking of "extra care" as some sort of life extension, while the GP thinks it means things like help showering and cooking, and the GGP is ambiguous and could believe anything.

The inevitability of death is a philosophical question. I read the GP and maybe the GGP as talking about the more practical question of whether it's moral to let broke old people die from bedsores and starvation or whether we pay for nurses.


A lot of people really want to get their hands on the savings of the elderly, and are very angry when they see old people spending money.

"law" and those who pratice "law" have managed to place itself largly in a monopoly. This is a huge drain on the economy. Law is expensive and irrational.

LLMs are replacing human experts

in cases where the quality of the output doesn't matter

Many people have very low quality thresholds

Then hopefully at some point they get to experience the consequences of having low quality thresholds, and perhaps then their quality thresholds will increase.

This is a weirdly reductive take.

There are plenty of areas where a "low bar" is more than enough. "low" doesn't necessarily mean bad here, it can simply mean "not the best".

I would argue the majority (in the true sense of the word) of white-collar service work does not require an expert.

It requires someone who has reasonable qualifications in the given field, and the motivation ($) to help you with your task.

So no one needs a top-shelf $900/hour lawyer to draw up a basic low-stakes contract where both parties agree to all the terms as written. You just need someone to ensure that the contract is legally valid as written.


Are implying that an LLM can accurately evaluate whether a contract is legally valid?

Consider if you will the thing called "time", which things happen in.

Are you aware of what frontier AI has done to mathematics in the last 6 months?

Lol no one cares. Most of that is smoke and mirrors anyways. Stokes was plagiarized. Most of these "breakthrough" solutions are actually present in the training data and in the prompts researchers and mathematicians input into ChatGPT themselves, prompts OpenAI then steals even when you don't agree to improve the model.

PS: I use LLMs every day, basically let Codex write most of my code (after 15+ years of professional programming), these are amazing tools, smart in some ways, but completely demented in others. People just need to fucking stop being AI doomers and AI coomers. Is this technology great? Yes. Is it worth 10 trillion? Hell fucking no. If we get to a point where RSI is a thing, then maybe. So far it's not a thing and its not even close.


> Lol no one cares. Most of that is smoke and mirrors anyways.

Lol tell me you don't know any practicing mathematicians without telling me you don't know any practicing mathematicians lol.


I suppose not. I am not a mathematician, and there has been too much drama to understand anything.

Turned it in to fuel for the OpenAI PR dept.?

Yes. But (as a side effect) this has entailed resolving a number of conjectures that have been open for decades, only one of which (the Navier-Stokes blow-up) is attached to any controversy.

Or in the long term, no new experts are being made because no companies want to sponsor the slow work and resources that becoming an expert take

fundementally we need to rethink what rights there are in public. We could start with "make photography totally illegal in public, or rewrite what we mean 'expectation of privacy' or what rules we have because the technology demands this.

Perhaps we could make it illegal to record an area beyond a certain scale, along with mandating that multiple systems recording distinct properties should not be networked together and must not share data with other systems. The exact language would need to be worked out to eliminate most loopholes while allowing reasonable applications.

It’s possible to allow small systems like home/business security cameras while forbidding mass surveillance. The law just needs to include clear statements of intent, and sufficient penalties, so future judges can apply it forcefully against people who try to find clever workarounds.


Agreed. I hate the fact that going in public requires accepting that you can be filmed by anyone and broadcast to the world without your consent, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

I'd also love to move past the inevitable "you have no expectation of privacy whatsoever in public!" comments that get regurgitated every time this topic comes up. Yes, that's the issue in the first place.


The problem in the US is that the "photography in public" right, and expectation of privacy rules are deeply entwined with the first amendment. You have to deal with the practicality of what is most likely the most universally popular amendment, and also deal with the fallout of handing a weapon to those that want to squelch free speech and free press.

The expectation line should be drawn at whether or not your existence in public results in the monetary gain of the entity that captures/uses the data.

ICE and other “law” enforcement would be totally on board with the “it’s illegal to take photos outside of your own home” level of fascism, as they continue to take pictures of you in public for “national security.”

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